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Title: T-shirt design
Post by: Danger Jon on January 14, 2011, 09:24:56 AM
Kaylee, Mikey and I had an initial go at making the top five climbing excuses into a t-shirt design, which is attached. The image was prepared in the open source software "Inkscape", so email me if you want a copy of the original to play around with and improve.

Any thoughts / suggestions ?
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: Weeman on January 14, 2011, 09:45:59 AM
Looks good!! I don't particularly like the font style and I think we should have a few more excuses but that might just be me :D

(I have no idea who Kaylee and Mikey are but good work guys!)
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: Dave on January 14, 2011, 12:03:39 PM
Could change big logo at the top to just University of Surrey Mountaineering club as will have the usmc thing on the front. Besides that all happy days!
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: Rich on January 14, 2011, 12:58:51 PM
I dont think it needs the top 5 climbing excuses heading.

I like the little graphics next to each one though
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: Danger Jon on January 14, 2011, 01:22:15 PM
I have changed the top from the USMC logo to "University of Surrey Mountaineering Club" as suggested.

Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: marc on January 14, 2011, 01:35:00 PM
I like it too.

Agree with rich on loosing the "Top five climbing excuses:" heading, or maybe just "Climbing excuses"? and could try adding more than five to see if it looks cluttered.

PS. Inkscape WIN *high five*
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: Danger Jon on January 14, 2011, 02:22:33 PM
I am not sure llosing completely the heading "Top five climbing excuses" is a good idea as it then becomes a whole lot of random phrases. What about just "Top climbing excuses" or "Best climbing excuses".

I agree that putting in a few more excuses is worth trying, particular ones that might be illustraitable. Dave what were some of the other excuses which people liked?
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: Weeman on January 14, 2011, 02:24:05 PM
I liked the 10 that Al posted :)
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: marc on January 14, 2011, 03:24:41 PM
I am not sure llosing completely the heading "Top five climbing excuses" is a good idea as it then becomes a whole lot of random phrases. What about just "Top climbing excuses" or "Best climbing excuses".
I'd say it's obvious enough without, but doesn't look bad either way...

I agree that putting in a few more excuses is worth trying, particular ones that might be illustraitable. Dave what were some of the other excuses which people liked?
There was a seagull one... Would be quite funny to illustrate that :D
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: Kirsty_x on January 14, 2011, 06:03:14 PM
I'm with Weeman. I'm not sure about the Comic Sans font!
I like the little pics, but perhaps do everything a bit less slanty and fit more on?
I am also not too sure about the title - It kind of needs some title, but don't think just stating "....excuses" quite works. I can't think of a better suggestion mind ;)
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: Rich on January 15, 2011, 04:09:51 PM
The title isn't necessary. The only people that will get it are climbers and they won't need a title to understand.

Not often you see a t shirt with a heading!
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: Sam on January 15, 2011, 10:01:37 PM
I have changed the top from the USMC logo to "University of Surrey Mountaineering Club" as suggested.



I suppose my opinion won't matter as I've already got so many club tops I don't need any more but I think there's far too much writing going on - USMC would be better!
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: Jez on January 16, 2011, 09:45:22 AM
regarding comic sans....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11582548


(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/49584000/jpg/_49584191_bunny_comic_sans304.jpg)
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: Jez on January 16, 2011, 09:57:04 AM
regarding the design...

I would suggest a more formal design... simple lines of text.

Also with the below question you can include slightly less direct excuses...

Why I can't climb 8a...
1. I've got the wrong shoes.
 2. The sun was in my eyes.
  3. Forgot to trim my nails.
   4. Someone greased up the holds
    5. The landing is a bit sketchy
     6. I've just eaten a roast dinner
      7. Pub...
       8. The hold was loose
        9. Bad temps
         10. That 9a yesterday trashed my skin
etc etc
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: Weeman on January 16, 2011, 01:42:47 PM
regarding the design...

I would suggest a more formal design... simple lines of text.

Also with the below question you can include slightly less direct excuses...

Why I can't climb 8a...
1. I've got the wrong shoes.
 2. The sun was in my eyes.
  3. Forgot to trim my nails.
   4. Someone greased up the holds
    5. The landing is a bit sketchy
     6. I've just eaten a roast dinner
      7. Pub...
       8. The hold was loose
        9. Bad temps
         10. That 9a yesterday trashed my skin
etc etc


I agree. It seems slightly boring but you get loads more on.
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: Windle on January 16, 2011, 04:25:40 PM
regarding the design...

I would suggest a more formal design... simple lines of text.

Also with the below question you can include slightly less direct excuses...

Why I can't climb 8a...
1. I've got the wrong shoes.
 2. The sun was in my eyes.
  3. Forgot to trim my nails.
   4. Someone greased up the holds
    5. The landing is a bit sketchy
     6. I've just eaten a roast dinner
      7. Pub...
       8. The hold was loose
        9. Bad temps
         10. That 9a yesterday trashed my skin
etc etc


If you did that you could have one of the little climbing picture people climbing up the back of the numbers like they were an overhang.
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: Danger Jon on January 17, 2011, 01:50:51 PM
Happy to produce a few more designs based upon the above comments, as soon as Dave has emailed the full list of excuses he compiled.
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: marc on January 17, 2011, 03:24:26 PM
I agree. It seems slightly boring but you get loads more on.
Isn't the idea to have a decent t-shirt, and the excuses idea is a means to an end...?

I don't see the point in cramming more on at the cost of style, that said, a plainer format could look good, maybe put two or three designs to a vote?
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: Danger Jon on January 21, 2011, 12:58:12 AM
Thanks for the suggestions everyone. Been having a play around with a few ideas before Kaylee, Mike and me get together again to develop / finalise a design.

What do people think of the attached design?

I really like the bright green with the white contrast of the hood and the design. Maybe this year we could go for a single colour and really create a presence on campus? It would also make ordering a billion times easier as we only need to worry about sizes not colours, sizes, and type of garment. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: Kaylz on January 21, 2011, 09:09:50 AM
Yes I like it!
I have just one suggestion and I dont know it will actually apply but do you think we could have the design on the back of the hoody slightly lower so when the hoods down people can still see the text, other than that I like it!
Yes i agree having one colour would really stand out around campus.
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: Danger Jon on January 21, 2011, 09:18:30 AM
Having the image lower down on the back should be easy enough. The final placement of the images on the hoodies would be done by the printers and they would know where things should go.
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: Weeman on January 21, 2011, 09:19:59 AM
They will charge quite a bit extra for a full print on the front rather than just a logo (i think). And agree with Kaylee although they put the image where ever they like anyway. I assume you made the mock-ups?

Otherwise, looking good!
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: Chris K on January 21, 2011, 09:26:15 AM
If we only have one colour, i'm happy with green - but could we have a less offensive t-shirt please (no white arms)
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: Danger Jon on January 21, 2011, 09:30:14 AM
I was trying to find a t-shirt that was both green and white, like the hoodie. However, a plain green t-shirt is easier and cheaper.

With printing (rather than embroidery) the size of the print does not effect cost. Cost is determined by the number of colours and the number of prints.

Yes. I did the mock-ups late last night, although with hindsight, sleep might have been a better idea.
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: Kaylz on January 21, 2011, 09:30:54 AM
Yes that sounds like a good compromise, having the T-shirt a different colour to the hoody.
Any suggestions on what colour you would prefer the T-shirt to be?
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: Weeman on January 21, 2011, 10:01:17 AM
I like my blue t-shirt. But I'd imagine a lot of people would like black.
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: Danger Jon on January 21, 2011, 10:41:27 AM
Black is very distinctive when printed in white, so might be a good choice.
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: Novelty Matt on January 21, 2011, 12:06:19 PM
I don't like the T-Shirt garment design; if you're going for a single colour T use a single colour preferably heavy weight one so they last.
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: Danger Jon on January 21, 2011, 03:02:46 PM
I've got a first quote for the price of the hoodies and t-shirts.

Assuming that we ordered about 20 hoodies and 30 t-shirts, we should be able to see them to club members for about 20 for the hoodies and 10 for the t-shirts. That cost is based on the hoodie I posted the photograph of and a heavy weight coloured cotton t-shirt, including printing back and front in white ink.
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: charlie on January 21, 2011, 04:14:29 PM
I really like the green and white and the design kick ass too!
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: marc on January 21, 2011, 04:59:07 PM
I like it tooo  Could perhaps put a climber on the back as well?
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: Stick on January 21, 2011, 05:35:14 PM
Def like the single colour and design looks good. Could we get a girly fit t-shirt as well as a blokes one?
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: Dave on January 21, 2011, 05:36:53 PM
The company used for last couple of years is pretty good I think. Nathan did last year so could give him a buzz.
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: Kirsty_x on January 21, 2011, 08:25:11 PM
Have you tried XAMAX - They're who we usually use and are pretty reasonable. They should be able to do Tee's for cheaper than 10
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: Weeman on January 21, 2011, 08:27:21 PM
I think Jon meant the club would charge 10. He was the one the one who originally found XAMAX and passed the details onto me :)
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: Gnat on January 21, 2011, 08:35:10 PM
Yeah XAMAX were really good, i got the hoodies for 15 last year tho...
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: library claire on January 21, 2011, 09:53:34 PM
I like the design, but not convinced by green though... :?
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: Danger Jon on January 21, 2011, 11:06:44 PM
I tried calling Xamax for a quote today but when I called them we got cut off half way through the call and then when I called them back they said that fire alarm was going off and had to evacuate and then hung up on me. I'll try calling them on Monday as a second quote would be good even though the quote I got today seemed fairly good.

The costs I posted were what the club could charge and still make a small profit for club funds while making the cost of a t-shirt or hoodie a nice round number so who ever is collecting money is not always be running out of change.

A girly fit t-shirt may be possible, however, it would require two additional printing screens (front and back) due to the small size of the t-shirts, which would cost an additional 50 in set-up charges and most printing places have a minimum order of 25 t-shirts before they will make up a screen. There are a few places which will do small orders using a different process. Checking out one that gave an online quote, it suggested a cost of about 17 per t-shirt, which is getting a bit steep. Can we get an order of 25 girly fit t-shirts?
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: Weeman on January 22, 2011, 11:38:06 AM
If you Xamax they should be more lenient  since we've used them lots before. When I ordered them we didn't meet the minimum orders by quite a way but they didn't seem to mind.
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: LITTLEmissBECKA on January 22, 2011, 08:24:43 PM
I like it :)

Just one tiny thing; the 'It' on the back doesn't need a capital I (teacher in me, lol).
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: Danger Jon on January 23, 2011, 10:25:44 AM
It actually is lower case, it just is bad resolution of the image. The attached is clearer:
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: blondie on January 23, 2011, 12:07:44 PM
It's still to high to been seen when the hood is down :-(
Title: Re: T-shirt design
Post by: Danger Jon on January 23, 2011, 09:00:57 PM
Here are some clearer mock-ups of the design.